Comments on: Thinkpad T42, ATI RADEON 9600 Driver, and the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/ Social Psychology, Anthropology, Technology, Gluttony - by Judd Antin Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:55:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: PC Arbor http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-134931 PC Arbor Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:08:50 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-134931 Good stuff. I saw something like this in SE Michigan recently on machine in for repair. Good stuff.

I saw something like this in SE Michigan recently on machine in for repair.

]]> By: Walter http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-133549 Walter Sat, 05 Sep 2009 14:48:31 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-133549 I had similar problems with IBM thinkpad T42. IT freezed if the case is handled ever so slightly, perhaps even by typing any key or pressure on the left and right site of the keypad.After removing keypad and brezle I plugged the key pad in and repowered. It appears that if the wifi card was toached that it freezed again. Then I removed the wifi-card, pushed the Intel-chip beneath the opening of the wifi-card and it powered on and it start working fine as long as presure was on the INTEL-chip. Then I took some expired plastic (credit)cards, without magnetic-strip, put two parts on top of the intel-chip. Replaced the wifi-card with some pressure. then put two full plastic-cards on the wifi-card. Remounted the brezzle. With a little test plugged in the keyboard and machine worked well. After installing the keyboard oner of the screws had to be untight a little and the t42 worked again. I had similar problems with IBM thinkpad T42. IT freezed if the case is handled ever so slightly, perhaps even by typing any key or pressure on the left and right site of the keypad.After removing keypad and brezle I plugged the key pad in and repowered. It appears that if the wifi card was toached that it freezed again. Then I removed the wifi-card, pushed the Intel-chip beneath the opening of the wifi-card and it powered on and it start working fine as long as presure was on the INTEL-chip. Then I took some expired plastic (credit)cards, without magnetic-strip, put two parts on top of the intel-chip. Replaced the wifi-card with some pressure. then put two full plastic-cards on the wifi-card. Remounted the brezzle. With a little test plugged in the keyboard and machine worked well. After installing the keyboard oner of the screws had to be untight a little and the t42 worked again.

]]> By: kamran niaz http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-115411 kamran niaz Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:13:25 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-115411 i have the problem with my IBM thinkpad t 42 when i play any game on this laptop the laptop power is off without any warrning i didnt understand whats the problem plz replay me and solve my problem i have the problem with my IBM thinkpad t 42
when i play any game on this laptop the laptop power is off without any warrning i didnt understand whats the problem plz replay me and solve my problem

]]> By: HandyAlan http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-100744 HandyAlan Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:33:19 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-100744 Picture for the above repair #135 at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/handyalan Picture for the above repair #135 at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/handyalan

]]> By: HandyAlan http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-100406 HandyAlan Sat, 03 Jan 2009 01:01:27 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-100406 Unconventional successful repair, T40: I have 'reset' my ATI module by gluing it in place with JB Weld. Having removed the keyboard, palmrest and network card which can probably be set aside without disconnecting the antenna. I pressed gently on the chip to reset it in its socket the one billionth of an inch that it moves. I checked the success of this by temporarily reinstalling the keyboard to see if I had video. I cleaned the area where I was going to spread the epoxy with no residue contact cleaner. I mixed some of the epoxy and spread it around the circumfrence of the ATI module avoiding any of the other chips. I put the stuff over the edge of the module up to but not over the chip itself in order to not change heat dissipation any more thannecessary . I used a wood tool, wife's wood cuticle tool - new to avoid contmination, with a blunt but thin edge to spread the cement about 1/8 inch from the edge of the module. I did not hesitate to cover everything in that range as JBWeld is supposed to be an insulator, even though it contains iron power go figure. I called the factory to clarify this and was assured that it was in fact insulating and that others had used it on circuit boards. JBWeld can be heated to 600 degrees so I figured that if it failed I could try the resolder. Now that this has been done it is obvious that the chip will not be moving relative to the board again. I hope. 18 hours later curing time and having not moved the computer at all, it worked. I have been to several coffee shops and moved it all over to test the real world success. This is day three and all is well. No apparent side effects. http://jbweld.net/index.php I have a picture but do not know how to include that in this post. This is as simple as it seems. Now 3 weeks later ad having droped the computer 2' from a table. Knocked the battery and HD out but didnt disturb video and still works, with a little tape to hold the battery in place. ;-) Unconventional successful repair, T40:

I have 'reset' my ATI module by gluing it in place with JB Weld.

Having removed the keyboard, palmrest and network card which can probably be set aside without disconnecting the antenna. I pressed gently on the chip to reset it in its socket the one billionth of an inch that it moves. I checked the success of this by temporarily reinstalling the keyboard to see if I had video.

I cleaned the area where I was going to spread the epoxy with no residue contact cleaner. I mixed some of the epoxy and spread it around the circumfrence of the ATI module avoiding any of the other chips. I put the stuff over the edge of the module up to but not over the chip itself in order to not change heat dissipation any more thannecessary . I used a wood tool, wife's wood cuticle tool – new to avoid contmination, with a blunt but thin edge to spread the cement about 1/8 inch from the edge of the module. I did not hesitate to cover everything in that range as JBWeld is supposed to be an insulator, even though it contains iron power go figure. I called the factory to clarify this and was assured that it was in fact insulating and that others had used it on circuit boards. JBWeld can be heated to 600 degrees so I figured that if it failed I could try the resolder. Now that this has been done it is obvious that the chip will not be moving relative to the board again. I hope.

18 hours later curing time and having not moved the computer at all, it worked. I have been to several coffee shops and moved it all over to test the real world success. This is day three and all is well. No apparent side effects.

http://jbweld.net/index.php

I have a picture but do not know how to include that in this post.

This is as simple as it seems.

Now 3 weeks later ad having droped the computer 2' from a table. Knocked the battery and HD out but didnt disturb video and still works, with a little tape to hold the battery in place. ;-)

]]> By: Jeff Z http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-98013 Jeff Z Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:35:37 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-98013 I had similar problems to what people have described above with my T42 - complete freeze (although the screen does not go black or BSOD) when I bump/move/whatever the laptop, sometimes boot errors along with that. I just tried the shim, using two a4 pieces of paper folded a few times... it creates a noticeable bulge in the keyboard, but I'm hoping it will create enough pressure over the graphics chip/heatsink. My initial stress test of shaking/bumping pretty vigorously was successful... here's hoping it holds up. Thanks to the informative posters above! I had similar problems to what people have described above with my T42 – complete freeze (although the screen does not go black or BSOD) when I bump/move/whatever the laptop, sometimes boot errors along with that. I just tried the shim, using two a4 pieces of paper folded a few times… it creates a noticeable bulge in the keyboard, but I'm hoping it will create enough pressure over the graphics chip/heatsink. My initial stress test of shaking/bumping pretty vigorously was successful… here's hoping it holds up. Thanks to the informative posters above!

]]> By: Dave http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-93292 Dave Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:09:32 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-93292 Reply for Seth(Post 77) and others, many thanks to all of you, the post-it notes idea was genius. It REALLY works. Reply for Seth(Post 77) and others, many thanks to all of you, the post-it notes idea was genius. It REALLY works.

]]> By: firefish http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-86574 firefish Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:24:30 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-86574 ok, this is to add to the knowledgebase here. Had the intermittent screen going blank all of a sudden problem with my T42 after more than 4 solid years! Tried the post-it trick as indicated in post 77. Works perfectly. 1. Remove hard drive 2. Remove keyboard 3. Cut posits to fit ATI Chip size, stack them together. Mine works with 5mm in height. 4. Place it just on top of the chip. 5. Screw it back and it should work. Caveat: when i moved the laptop vigorously, the problem came back, now i have to handle it gently It's working fine. managed to do a full backup with acronis it ran the entire night without blanking out. THANKS! Arnold Singapore ok, this is to add to the knowledgebase here.
Had the intermittent screen going blank all of a sudden problem with my T42
after more than 4 solid years!

Tried the post-it trick as indicated in post 77. Works perfectly.
1. Remove hard drive
2. Remove keyboard
3. Cut posits to fit ATI Chip size, stack them together. Mine works with 5mm in height.
4. Place it just on top of the chip.
5. Screw it back and it should work.

Caveat: when i moved the laptop vigorously, the problem came back, now i have to handle it gently

It's working fine.
managed to do a full backup with acronis
it ran the entire night without blanking out.

THANKS!

Arnold
Singapore

]]> By: Nick Dobrinov http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-73640 Nick Dobrinov Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:53:25 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-73640 Gotglasses, can you post a picture or video of your invention and give us a link to it? This would be very helpful, as I am thinking of inventing something myself. Gotglasses, can you post a picture or video of your invention and give us a link to it? This would be very helpful, as I am thinking of inventing something myself.

]]> By: Nick Dobrinov http://www.technotaste.com/blog/thinkpad-t42-ati-radeon-9600-driver-and-the-blue-screen-of-death-bsod/comment-page-3/#comment-73635 Nick Dobrinov Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:44:13 +0000 http://www.technotaste.com/blog/?p=103#comment-73635 Hello, this has been a very helpful discussion. I located the problem on my laptop and it is definitely the ATI coming loose from the MBoard. When I open the laptop and press the card down to the board it starts and works fine again, until, I guess, it comes out loose again. Now my question is does anyone know what model numbers come with the fixed mother board? For example TYPE 2373-???. If we know this info we can look for used MBs from the new batch and fix our comps. Hello,

this has been a very helpful discussion. I located the problem on my laptop and it is definitely the ATI coming loose from the MBoard. When I open the laptop and press the card down to the board it starts and works fine again, until, I guess, it comes out loose again. Now my question is does anyone know what model numbers come with the fixed mother board? For example TYPE 2373-???. If we know this info we can look for used MBs from the new batch and fix our comps.

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