Thu 23 Jun 2005
Thinkpad T42, ATI RADEON 9600 Driver, and the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD)
Posted by Judd under General , Technology[142] Comments
Nobody likes the BSOD, but the worst thing about it is when it comes sporadically and for seemingly no reason at all. When you've made a change to your system that results in errors, it's pretty easy to diagnose. Otherwise, oh god, it's awful.
Recently my IBM Thinkpad T42 (2373-3VU, for those who care), started acting erratically. It would freeze at random moments, shut down spontaneously and then fail to start up again, and sometimes not come on at all. Then, of course, I got the dreaded BSOD a couple of times. I called IBM (Lenovo) customer support and got nowhere. They did, however, inspire me to reseat my RAM. I thought that fixed the problem, but then the BSOD reappeared. I nearly cried.
The irritating thing about the BSOD is that it's full of useful information for diagnosing your problem, but it flashes off so quickly, as the computer reboots, that you have no time to read it. Thank goodness for Win XP's 'Watchdog' feature, which will log the text of each BSOD you get into text files with the extension '.wdl'. Find these in: /WINDOWS/LogFiles/Watchdog.
My latest BSOD contained the following:
//
// Watchdog Event Log File
//LogType: Watchdog
Created: 2005-06-23 20:51:48
TimeZone: 480 – Pacific Standard Time
WindowsVersion: XP
EventType: 0xEA – Thread Stuck in Device Driver//
// The driver for the display device got stuck in an infinite loop. This
// usually indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device
// driver programming the hardware incorrectly. Please check with your
// display device vendor for any driver updates.
//EaRecovery: 1
ShutdownCount: 108
Shutdown: 0
EventCount: 3
BreakCount: 3
BugcheckTriggered: 1
DebuggerNotPresent: 1
DriverName: ati2dvag
EventFlag: 1
DeviceClass: Display
DeviceDescription: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600 Series
HardwareID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E50&SUBSYS_05501014&REV_00
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
DriverFixedFileInfo: FEEF04BD 00010000 0006000E 000A1953 0006000E 000A1953 0000003F 00000008 00040004 00000003 00000004 00000000 00000000
DriverCompanyName: ATI Technologies Inc.
DriverFileDescription: ATI Radeon WindowsNT Display Driver
DriverFileVersion: 6.14.10.6483
DriverInternalName: ati2dvag.dll
DriverLegalCopyright: Copyright (C) 1998-2004 ATI Technologies Inc.
DriverOriginalFilename: ati2dvag.dll
DriverProductName: ATI Radeon WindowsNT Display Driver
DriverProductVersion: 6.14.10.6483
Most of that doesn't make sense to me, but it did help me isolate the problem down to my video driver. A quick Google search reveals that other folks have had problems with the ati2dvag driver and the BSOD. No one with a Thinkpad, though. I was optimistic about the fix I found here, but no joy. So I upgraded to the latest driver through IBM's site – that's 6.14.10.6512. Find the update insteller here.
So that seems to have done the trick, though I need to run it through the ringer. I'm not sure what caused the conflict, but if you're like me MS just hit you with a rash of Windows Updates. I'm guessing one of them caused the problem. Who knows.
So, hopefully this is helpful for someone out there.
Update: Of course, nothing is as easy as it seems. The problems with my machine are reoccuring. However, I've recently noticed that the erratic behavior only occurs when I'm running on battery power, and then only when I am not stationary at my desk. Is something loose? The video adapter, perhaps? I can remember a slightly unusual ding that I gave the machine by accident several days back, but it was nothing drastic. It might have been just enough, though. I'm calling IBM (Lenovo) back. I'll report!
Update (again): A more knowledgeable and well spoken IBM/Lenovo employee suggested that there could be a conflict with my embedded controller or BIOS. My embedded controller was already up to date, but my BIOS was 3 versions old. I upgraded from 3.13 to 3.16. It remains to be seen if that will solve the problem, but it's worth a try. He is also sending me a new memory chip in case that is the culprit.
Final Update: After all this, the laptop finally just died, and I took it in. They replaced my motherboard (for the 2nd time in the year that I've had this laptop), and everything's dandy now. I think, basically, when there is so much random and erratic behavior, there can be no other explanation.
Final Final Update (6.16.2006): After more than a year and many, many comments on this post, Soren seems to have come up with the first definitive cause of these problems – if we believe Lenovo knows what they're talking about. Unfortunately, it sounds like if you have the defective part, there's nothing much you can do to prevent the chance of a problem, and nothing to be done short of a new mainboard when it happens.

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Anymore wisdom on this? Recently my T42 has started freezing at odd times too.
Well, guys, i got those famout BSOD problems, and tried to figure out ways during past few months. Apparently it\'s ATI video driver problem. So, i uninstalled ATI driver problem. Thanks God – I haven\'t seen blue screen problem since then. Hope this could help if u look for compromise.
I got my IBM Thinkpad T42 (2373) in April 2005 and now started getting BSOD. All started few weeks ago with a few BSOD and today I am getting multiple symptoms. Now my CPU is very slow running at 589 Mhz (Intel Centrino 1.70 Ghz). This is very bad and I am very worry. I uninstalled ATI driver with the softwares and keep getting more problems. Any advice? I noticed this happened when the laptop is under heavy stress (Running Visual Studio 2003) RAM is 512 MB. I also took pictures of the blue screens with digital camera.
Do you think I need to replace the laptop?
I have /important/sensitive information in my hard drive and I do not want to send my laptop for repair. Please help.
Thank you very much. Alex
Below is the last completed memory dump recorded this morning at 3:00 AM=>
C:\WINDOWS>dumpchk -d memory.dmp
Loading dump file memory.dmp
—– 32 bit Kernel Full Dump Analysis
DUMP_HEADER32:
MajorVersion 0000000f
MinorVersion 00000a28
DirectoryTableBase 18ad5000
PfnDataBase 81000000
PsLoadedModuleList 8055a420
PsActiveProcessHead 805604d8
MachineImageType 0000014c
NumberProcessors 00000001
BugCheckCode 0000008e
BugCheckParameter1 c0000005
BugCheckParameter2 804dc033
BugCheckParameter3 f67c1c80
BugCheckParameter4 00000000
PaeEnabled 00000000
KdDebuggerDataBlock 8054c060
Physical Memory Description:
Number of runs: 3
FileOffset Start Address Length
00001000 00001000 0009e000
0009f000 00100000 00eff000
00f9e000 01000000 1ef60000
Last Page: 1fefd000 1ff5f000
KiProcessorBlock at 80559320
1 KiProcessorBlock entries:
ffdff120
Windows XP Kernel Version 2600 (Service Pack 2) UP Free x86 compatible
Built by: 2600.xpsp.050301-1521
Kernel base = 0x804d7000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x8055a420
Debug session time: Thu Nov 10 02:44:50 2005
System Uptime: 0 days 0:07:32
start end module name
804d7000 806eb180 nt Checksum: 0021743B Timestamp: Tue Mar 01 20:
04:06 2005 (42251106)
Unloaded modules:
f5ce8000 f5d12000 kmixer.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:42:17 2005 (4372F9D9)
f5ea2000 f5ecc000 kmixer.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:40:23 2005 (4372F967)
f8ac0000 f8ac1000 GATHER.KM Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:40:12 2005 (4372F95C)
f6ae2000 f6b0c000 kmixer.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:38:36 2005 (4372F8FC)
f6b0c000 f6b2f000 aec.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:38:29 2005 (4372F8F5)
f8aa7000 f8aa8000 drmkaud.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:38:29 2005 (4372F8F5
)
f6ddc000 f6de9000 DMusic.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:38:29 2005 (4372F8F5)
f6dec000 f6dfa000 swmidi.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:38:29 2005 (4372F8F5)
f8a25000 f8a27000 splitter.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:38:29 2005 (4372F8F
5)
f85e7000 f85f0000 processr.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:37:34 2005 (4372F8B
E)
f85d7000 f85e2000 p3.sys Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:37:34 2005 (4372F8BE)
f882f000 f8834000 Cdaudio.SYS Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:37:33 2005 (4372F8BD
)
f8827000 f882c000 Flpydisk.SYS Timestamp: Thu Nov 10 02:37:33 2005 (4372F8B
D)
Finished dump check
me again, actually the right model is IBM Thinkpad T42 (2379DXU) Thanks Alex
Have you checked out the Watchdog file for your BSODs? Take a look in \WINDOWS\Log\Watchdog. Also, have you put any new memory in the machine? In my experience poorly seated memory modules can cause a huge variety of bizarre problems. However, it sounds like a hardware problem – potentially the system board.
If you bought a Depot-based warranty, you shouldn't have a problem. The first time I sent my T42 back they sent me a box (postage paid) and I sent it back and had it back to me within a week. The second time I took it to a local repair shop certified by IBM. I picked it up 2 days later and paid nothing. Be careful though, the IBM Representative I talked to said that different repair shops have different deals with IBM, and some will make you pay for labor costs.
I can't find this directory \WINDOWS\Log\Watchdog in my laptop. Any ideas why?
Sorry… that's \Windows\LogFiles\Watchdog
Not luck with that one. Do I need to install Watchdog or something else in XP pro?
Nope, it should be an included feature. Check out this artcle for more info.
I found this article about Watchdog.
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11183-0.html?forumID=89&threadID=169760&messageID=1772967
I think my problem is not the ATI driver may be something else in the system. I am going to call IBM tomorrow and I will post my results here. Thank you
I had exactly the same problem of BSOD. The configuration of my Thinkpad is similar with a ATI Radeon 9600 graphics card. I tried everything possible with drivers, but the problem did not resolve. I finally tries removing the extra 1GB Transcend RAM module I had put earlier. It's been more than 3 days now since I removed the RAM and my OS hasn't crashed. I'm hoping I've zeroed-in on the problem. I'll post an update if that is not the case.
Thanks.
Dennis,
Glad you resolved it by fooling with the RAM. I did the same thing, and thought I had fixed it, but then realized that it would crap out anytime I jostled the laptop even a little bit. So using it on a desk was fine, but anything else was out of the question.
There are some powerful RAM testing tools you could try, just to see if it's the problem. I'd try Memtest86. Your problem sounds so similar to mine and others that I have a feeling you'll find out it's the system board. If you have a warranty, I'd recommend sending it in.
You know, there has been a lot more traffic on this post recently. It seems like more and more folks are running into problems like this with the T42. I wonder what's going on!
Actually, a few days basck, just when the problem had surfaced, the thinkpad would not even boot up! I turned it in and the IBM/Lenovo people returned it to me after three days saying they have replaced the planer/mother-board. But the OS crashing problem was prevalent even after it. So I played around with RAM. Today is the sixth consecutive day without a problem. I have got my RAM replaced with a Kingston Module, today. Let's see what happens.. Will keep the forum posted. It might be that the malfunction with system-board led to corruption of RAM, but that is a far-fetched notion. I really do not know the exact cause.
Thanks.
Yeah, I agree that BSOD on thinkpads have suddenly shooted up. What beats me the timing of these errors. Laptops bought around same time(Feb-May) have started behave erraticaly at around same time (oct-nov)!
Same here.. got a few of these T42's at work, and they're suddenly bluescreening. Only when our Windows XP SP2 is installed though. Might be driver related.
Glenn – have you been using Lenovo's new software update tools? I've run into huge driver incompatibility problmes related to upgrades of the Thinkvantage tools, drivers, etc. through the built in tool.
When I update drivers, I have to do it one at a time, and I'd say 30% of the time it kills something and I have to do a System Restore.
I've had the same problem except mine is the T41 (2373IAA), purchased May 2004. The laptop can't be jostled – the screen gets a bit of horizontal static and then it locks up. Being under a 3 year international warranty it was picked up, sent to the regional service centre 1000km away, had its mainboard and fan replaced and returned 3 days later. All was fine and dandy for about 6 hours before the freezing problem returned. A phone call to IBM tech and they advise a system restore. It still did not solve the problem. Now I'm waiting for them to pick up the laptop again. In the meantime I've pulled the ram module out from the bottom socket to see how it runs.
I have a ThinkPad T42 (2374-M59) and I have the same problem. I barely move the computer and it freezes. A few minutes of waiting for it to unfreeze gives me blue screen. I am annoyed by this because I love the features of the computer but it can't be touched or it will freeze.
Cody,
That sounds exactly like what happened to me. Is it under warranty? If so, give them a call and send it in. When I called they ran me through this long list of tests and tricks, and none of them worked. Unfortunately, I don't think you can tell them to skip it and just send it in – it's the people who say that all the time who forgot to check that it was plugged in or something.
Argh, this is happening to my T42, too – apparently there is a design flaw in the system board near the video card. Does anyone have any idea how to compel IBM to fix this? I paid a LOT extra for this thing because I thought it would be reliable, but now it's a paperweight and is going to cost a fortune to get fixed. (it was five freakin' weeks out of warranty)
I've tried posting about this issue over at forum.thinkpads.com, but the mods there are IBM/Lenovo cheerleaders (it wouldn't suprise me if they have "consulting" agreements) and have refused to pin any of the threads about this issue. Also very frustrating!
My thinkpad T42p just crashed with the same error and is now not booting up. Lenovo is supposed to send someone out to look at it tomorrow. My machine was purchased in June 2004. I upgraded the RAM to 2 GB about a year ago with no problems until yesterday. I strongly suspect that the problem is software related and somehow related to a recent batch of Windows XP upgrades. This was the only thing that was upgraded on my computer prior to the appearance of the problems. That might explain why there is a spike in people having the problem now. I also suspect that it is related to the ATI 9600 board and driver. I'll post anything else I find out here.
best,
Dan
i (too) have the same problem. horizontal static, then either freeze,BSOD on the ATI driver, or just black screen. sometimes it won't reboot. moving the laptop around makes it happen more often and so i can't see how this is driver related unless its trying to cope with some sort of hardware voltage tolerances. how can IBM sell these crap? mine is 2 months out of warranty! I WILL NEVER BUY IBM AGAIN! IBM should take responsibility for crappy manufacturing if it's indeed a mainboard design issue. I tried pulling mine down and reseating everything, no joy. anyone managed to fix this without replacing the mainboard?
I haven't heard of anyone who has fixed this without a new motherboard, sad news though that is.
Several folks have mentioned that this is a mainboard design issue – does anyone have the backstory or preferably the link to back that up?
If there really is a design flaw that Lenovo won't fix, then that makes me sad, because not withstanding the motherboard issues, I've loved my Thinkpad, and I think it's one of the best designed laptops out there. Worth every penny…
I am so happy that I found this posting board. I purchased the T42 for work in June '05 and I have had the mother board replaced twice. Unofortunately the second time the hd went with it. Each time the computer died I got the BSOD more frequently and then the computer stopped booting when the battery was in, but I could get it to boot with just the AC adaptor. Finally, a couple weeks ago the computer froze and I wasn't able to reboot. I have been hounding Lenovo's Customer Relations people — she expidited this second repair — because at this point I don't even want the computer any more. But I doubt they'll take it back. She said that tech thought I may have disable some active protection that protects the hard drive. Has anyone heard this? I doubt it and after reading this board I am guessing there is a design flaw in the computer. I had her set up a phone call with her tech next week. I'll post here if I get any good answers.
I was having the horizontal static and freezing issue, and today had the system board replaced. NOW I'm getting the ati2dvag errors (800×600 and pixelization OR blue screen) – and I can't play videos. Tech who replaced my board says they're not related… but your posts have me convinced they must be. Will updating the video driver fix it? I'm low tech and don't know how to do that. Thanks in advance!
Gretchen,
If your problems are anything like the ones reported here, I hate to tell you but I don't think updating the video driver will do a thing. That said, it couldn't hurt to try it. It's quite easy. Just go to the Thinkpad support site here, enter the details for your machine, and download the installer for the latest video drivers.
I've been have the freezing problem too with my T42… but it only seems to happen when I'm using AC power… if I run it off battery it never freezes…. I've only occasionally gotten the BSOD… I called tech support and they couldn't do anything… so I'm bringing it to a certified shop today. I've still got warranty coverage, so I guess it's a good thing it happened while the stupid thing is still relatively new? I really hope they fix it… there's no way I can do my thesis with it freezing all the time.
Well, although very tempting to vent my emotions on this matter, it would be best to just explain my experience in as staight a manner as possible.
In our NGO, we have a T42 that was purchased in around the same time as the others in this discussion. It started to have the same issues w/ the ati2dvag errors leading to crashes, BSOD's, suspected corrupted OS and finalling culminating w/ BSOD's everytime it was attepmted to re-install the OS from the recovery partition, this was Nov'05.
Called IBM/Lenovo as it was still under warranty and they said to bring it into a cert shop to have it looked over, in the meantime they would send Rescue/Recovery Disks to re-install the OS and rescue partition as by this point the call center figured the recovery partition was corrupt. The 'first' cert shop didn't find any issues therefore got it back as is, ie not fixed. Attempted to re-install the OS from the disks sent from IBM/Lenovo; it BSOD'd on every attempt; tried about 6 times. Took it to another cert shop, they eventually replaced the mobo which was back ordered; got it back in early Jan'06. When I attempted to re-install from the recovery disks, it BSOD at some some point on every attempt; tried about 6 times.
Called IBM again, they mailed out a prepaid box to send them the T42. Got it back a week later; they replaced the RAM, the mobo again, and the HD. When attempting to re-install from the Resue Recovery Disks, it still BSOD'd; tried about 6 times.
Called IBM again, they sent out yet another set of Rescue Recovery disks, tried to re-install from the second set, still BSOD'd; tried about 6 times.
This brings us to mid Jan '06.
Called them yet again, this time the case got 'escalated' to a call manager. She sent out yet another prepaid box to have the T42 sent back. I insisted that they replace the T42 outright, they would not (in all fairness she did try to have it replaced); what they did do was replaced the CPU and installed a larger HD as 'compensation', it also came back with the OS installed to factory settings (I should mention that every other time it came back the OS was NOT installed; now I know that the warranty does not cover software issues per se, but it is thier modified/doctored OS image that was given for the OS re-install).
This brings us to mid Feb'06. So far the T42 has been functional for about a week and a half. It took them almost 3 months to resolve the issue of malfunctioning hardware and installing a stable OS (XP). During this entire process, nothing was offered to resolve, let alone mention, the original issue, ie the ati2dvag errors.
I leave you to draw your own conclusion(s) of the level of service we got from IBM/Lenovo.
Feedback greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Just to make you all feel warm and fuzzy. I have the same issues on a T43 with the ATI X300 video card…fun stuff. I'm going to try taking out the add on ram and seeing if it works better.
I'm getting a new motherboard…we'll see if that works…unfortunately I'm out a few weeks for work so I won't be able to do the board swap for a while. So for now I just run my PC with video acceleration disabled, so no games but at least I can watch some vids with media player without my PC locking up all the time.
got the same prob as you guys. Taking out the additional ram or battery doesn't work. Luckily was able to keep the laptop running some minutes so I could backup my data (thank god). I'm going to call the ibm support center tomorrow. I'll keep you up to date.
Bought my t42 in september, and now, 6 months later, i have the exact same problem. I have not installed any additional RAM. It happens no matter if i run on battery or AC adapter. I do not think it is a driver issue, as it also happens under linux. After the pc has crashed, the laptop sends out a low, high freq sound that wont disapere unless i unplug the battery. It just happened out of nowhere (only had openoffice running), and i could only have the pc on for 1-2 hours, and here, just before i send it in, only for 2-3 minnutes. When i adjusted the screen angle, the monitor turned off, wich made me think it was a problem also related to the hdd (the g-sensor). I sincerily hope that they have fixed the motherboard issue, so i wont have to go through the troubble of sending it in several times like people here have done. Anyone got any news of this
soeren-thorup@e-mail.dk
T42 Same problem. After six months started crashing when moved. No BSOD so far, but wipes favorites files, work processing software, other software with sudden crashes. You can make it work by actually bending down the right hand side of the laptop, or pressing on the right side of the palm rest near the scratch pad. Shame IBM has been outsourced. Looks like I buy $500 laptops and throw them away when crashed. No more IBM for me.
I sent in my T42 to get a USB problem fixed (would only run at USB 1.1) and got it back two days ago. They replaced the Planar Card (motherboard) and figured everything would be fine. Got screwed tonight when the screen froze. I restarted only to get a black screen (monitor not even on). Just got off the phone with them and they need to replace the planar card again. So pissed. Probably stuck some refurbished crap in it and managed to do it poorly at that.
Lots of problems lately. I wonder if a batch of shoddy motherboards are getting to the end of their wear-life. Since I had my motherboard replaced the 2nd time about 9 months ago I haven't had any problems.
Some folks have attributed this sort of thing to the switch to Lenovo. But everything I've read and heard is that the enigneering, management, and support teams were transferred intact. So Lenovo (hypothetically) isn't doing anything different. Go figure.
Anyway, next time someone has a problem and calls customer support, tell them to take a look at this post as a catalog of problems and frustrations.
To Alex at :
Your CPU running slowly is not a bug, but rather a feature used to save power.
When your laptop isn't doing much, the CPU slows down. When you need it, it speeds up to a maximum of 1.7GHz (or whatever the maximum speed of your CPU is). I think I've seen mine down as low as 200MHz. So that's nothing to be worried about.
Anyway, I'm just another user frustrated by the (occasional for me) BSODs caused by ati2dvag.dll. Sorry to hear there doesn't seem to be much of a solution.
I wonder, do any Linux users run into errors like this? If you are one, are you using the ATI drivers or the opensource ones?
i used the opensource drivers on linux, and it also crashed…
no bsod though
Has anyone, besides me, tried running their T42 with the keyboard removed? I pulled it to check the memory, then left it, still connected, but removed from the case. The laptop seemed to run flawlessly in that state. If it continues to work, I'd say it points to a heat releated problem. The fan is running.
I just reinstalled the keyboard and will wait to see what happens.
Didnt try that, but the graphical errors wich occured before the bsod or crash looked exactly like when a gpu is overheating, so i would say it is likely.
I've got the same problem as everyone else, though mine just started a few days ago. Ben, did turing off the acceleration help?
T42, same problem. Motherboard has been replaced twice within a month. I've had similar monitor problems as other folks on this post and know several people with the same problems that I've been having. Eventually my case got escalated — only problem was that once it got escalated they forgot to send a repair box. I demanded a new computer. They refused. I refuse to buy IBM again.
My T42p has developed this problem – mysterious crashes and video corruption, black screen when I move the laptop slightly, etc. It was purchased almost exactly 12 months ago.
This is definately not a software problem – I can turn the T42p off every time by pressing on the "IBM ThinkPad" logo to the bottom right of the keyboard. It's as if my laptop developed a new "off" switch. I can even do this on the BIOS boot screen.
I would speculate this is a problem with the G-sensors failing, or the ATI video card becoming unseated. Probably the former.
I have heard from Lenovo what the problem is!
It seems that a design-error can cause the GPU/heatsink to loosen from the motherboard. Holding your laptop in one hand should be enough to create enough tension for this problem to occure.
Lenovo says it has changed motherboard manufactor since the affected models were produced, and is runing out of stock of "original" spareparts. Because of that, they expect the problems to become fewer, as the old motherborads gets replaced.
I just had my motherboard replaced. I hope i got one of the new motherboards. Fingers crossed.
I'm having exactly the same problems described here with an IBM T42p (2373-7XU) that I bought just over a year ago.
I'm happy to finally know what's going on – I'll call them and get them to replace the motherboard.
Thanks!
I've got a T42 (2378-FVU) that I purchased in July 04. I've had nearly flawless performance from this machine for almost two years now which is more than I can say for the numerous other brands I've had start to fail within 3 months of purchase.
I get the exact same issue in Windows or Linux or even the BIOS setup menu. It's not just a driver–the graphics start to artifact, sometimes the horizontal lines, then the display shuts off. It's aggravated by movement–even a strong keypress.
It would make sense to me that it is a heat issue like Soren says. I hold my laptop in one hand often enough, and I noticed right when this started happening that the bottom of the chassis was hotter than I've ever felt it before. It's funny too, because this is by far the coolest running notebook I've owned. Glad to hear they "think" they've fixed the problem though. I'll be sending mine in shortly.
My T42 is out of warranty already. I replaced the keyboard because I couldn't get it to boot up and now it boots up, but I'm having the issues you all are describing.. (no BSOD, but it randomly goes black, and I have to do a hard reboot to get it back up, and even then, not perfectly.
Anyone know how I can fix the "design flaw" myself? I'm pretty handy if I needed to resolder something, etc. Didn't really want to drop $300+ on a new mainboard, especially if I'm not guaranteed to get the "newer" design.
My T42 recently suffered the same fate as many of you have described (randomly crashes to black screen and refuses to boot up, particularly when moved).
Has anyone had luck in getting Lenovo to fix their laptop even if it's out of warranty (since it's a known defect)? If not, is there any way to strengthen the bond between the GPU/heatsink and mainboard?
I have the same problem with my T42. The machine works fine on a desk, but if I move it or use it on my lap then pretty soon the screen gets all static and then freezes – the only thing left to do is a hard reboot.
I bought it in July of 2004 – so I'm near the end of my warranty. But I'm having the system board replaced tomorrow. I hope that it helps the problem. I'll post back and let you know.
Does anyone know, since my warranty expires in a little over a week. If this doesn't fix the problem, will IBM/Lenovo continue to help me since I opened the support ticket prior to the end of my warranty? I hope so.
BTW – I asked the support guy if he'd heard of this problem and he said that he had. So there must be more of us out there. He didn't really even ask me any questions, just said that they're sending someone out to replace the board.
You know, this post gets a ton of traffic on Technotaste, mostly I think because there doesn't seem to be much info. about this problem out there. Anyone had much luck Googling other sites with info. on this?
Next person who calls tech. support, maybe give them this URL? By now it's a nice running tally of people's symptoms related to this issue.