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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried this &amp; it was fantastic!! 

It did cook much faster than I expected- about 1/2 the time(which was fine by me- it smelled so good my stomach was roaring!!) We almost over-cooked it! Thank goodness for the brine, or else we would have. Even then- our turkey was so moist and tender that as my fiance was carving it, it fell off the bone :)

I was really skeptical about the cinnamon, cloves &amp; some of the other spices. But I decided to try the spices as listed &amp; the worst that could happen is that I didn&#039;t like it. But-they blended beautifully and tasted great. When we had the rub on the turkey in the fridge we kept smelling the rub &amp; holy cow!

I even made gravy from the drippings for the first time, so I&#039;m sure I made it wrong but it was really salty (I&#039;m assuming from the brine in the turkey) I&#039;ll adjust my recipe for next year &amp; I know it will be perfect!

My fiance &amp; I greatly appreciate this recipe. I&#039;ll DEFINITELY be using THIS recipe again! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried this &amp; it was fantastic!! </p>
<p>It did cook much faster than I expected- about 1/2 the time(which was fine by me- it smelled so good my stomach was roaring!!) We almost over-cooked it! Thank goodness for the brine, or else we would have. Even then- our turkey was so moist and tender that as my fiance was carving it, it fell off the bone <img src='http://www.technotaste.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was really skeptical about the cinnamon, cloves &amp; some of the other spices. But I decided to try the spices as listed &amp; the worst that could happen is that I didn&#039;t like it. But-they blended beautifully and tasted great. When we had the rub on the turkey in the fridge we kept smelling the rub &amp; holy cow!</p>
<p>I even made gravy from the drippings for the first time, so I&#039;m sure I made it wrong but it was really salty (I&#039;m assuming from the brine in the turkey) I&#039;ll adjust my recipe for next year &amp; I know it will be perfect!</p>
<p>My fiance &amp; I greatly appreciate this recipe. I&#039;ll DEFINITELY be using THIS recipe again! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Winston Bouie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winston Bouie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve invited the  family round this xmas for a big dinner, so  the roast is pretty important! I found a ton of recipes at this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roastrecipes.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;roast recipe&lt;/a&gt; site, but cant seem to decide on one - there&#039;s too many to choose from! It is fun planning such a big christmas meal though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve invited the  family round this xmas for a big dinner, so  the roast is pretty important! I found a ton of recipes at this <a href="http://www.roastrecipes.net/" rel="nofollow">roast recipe</a> site, but cant seem to decide on one &#8211; there&#039;s too many to choose from! It is fun planning such a big christmas meal though!</p>
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		<title>By: Britt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 01:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We tried it for this Thanksgiving (11-25-10)...turkey was incredibly juicy. It was &quot;blackened&quot; as you mentioned but I also added a bit of EVOO before I added the rub so I&#039;m sure that didn&#039;t help. My husband said, &quot;...this is the juiciest turkey I&#039;ve ever eaten...&quot;. My kids couldn&#039;t get enough...
Thank you for all the info!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We tried it for this Thanksgiving (11-25-10)&#8230;turkey was incredibly juicy. It was &#034;blackened&#034; as you mentioned but I also added a bit of EVOO before I added the rub so I&#039;m sure that didn&#039;t help. My husband said, &#034;&#8230;this is the juiciest turkey I&#039;ve ever eaten&#8230;&#034;. My kids couldn&#039;t get enough&#8230;<br />
Thank you for all the info!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sophia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its so funny how worked up people can get about cooking suggestions....geeze.  Thank you for providing a delicious sounding turkey recipe!  I cant wait to try it this year! 

If ya dont like it dont use it critics!

-Sophia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its so funny how worked up people can get about cooking suggestions&#8230;.geeze.  Thank you for providing a delicious sounding turkey recipe!  I cant wait to try it this year! </p>
<p>If ya dont like it dont use it critics!</p>
<p>-Sophia</p>
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		<title>By: Judd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,

Glad the stuffed turkey works out well for you. I won&#039;t argue that it leads to tasty, tasty stuffing. 

I wouldn&#039;t call myself a food nazi. And though I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve never actually witnessed anyone feeling bad a day or two after eating undercooked stuffing, it might just be possible it happened anyway. I&#039;m not worried about sickness on the order of IV fluids here, just tummy grumbles and some time in the bathroom.

Mostly, why bother when you can get better turkey and excellent stuffing using another method?

--Judd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>Glad the stuffed turkey works out well for you. I won&#039;t argue that it leads to tasty, tasty stuffing. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#039;t call myself a food nazi. And though I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve never actually witnessed anyone feeling bad a day or two after eating undercooked stuffing, it might just be possible it happened anyway. I&#039;m not worried about sickness on the order of IV fluids here, just tummy grumbles and some time in the bathroom.</p>
<p>Mostly, why bother when you can get better turkey and excellent stuffing using another method?</p>
<p>&#8211;Judd</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no one ever got sick from stuffing in turkey and the turkey was moist. so food nazis should chill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one ever got sick from stuffing in turkey and the turkey was moist. so food nazis should chill</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the weird no stuffing turkey is weird.
My family has done this for years.
Do it smart for flavour. Do not over stuff. Add some whole onions, garlic and fresh sage, for room.
Make sure turkey is moist and done. Take out the stuffing and mix the majority of the stuffing that would never fit in the Turkey anyway. Add turkey dripping. saute or put under the broiler. Discard the whole vegatabels and sage and broil for some crust. Full flavour no worries. stuff back in turkey if you want.Or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the weird no stuffing turkey is weird.<br />
My family has done this for years.<br />
Do it smart for flavour. Do not over stuff. Add some whole onions, garlic and fresh sage, for room.<br />
Make sure turkey is moist and done. Take out the stuffing and mix the majority of the stuffing that would never fit in the Turkey anyway. Add turkey dripping. saute or put under the broiler. Discard the whole vegatabels and sage and broil for some crust. Full flavour no worries. stuff back in turkey if you want.Or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Pattie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this sounds Delish!!! I will be using this recipe this year for my family. Cant wait to try it out!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this sounds Delish!!! I will be using this recipe this year for my family. Cant wait to try it out!!</p>
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		<title>By: jantin</title>
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		<dc:creator>jantin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,

Thanks for your comment, although next time you might want to put some effort into sounding less cocky and preachy. As it happens, I&#039;m a culinary school graduate and I worked as a chef, so let&#039;s just keep our conversation on point.

As long as we&#039;re talking about myths, a big one is the idea that putting a moist thing in the turkey cavity would add moisture to the meat. Case in point: beer can chicken. That&#039;s where you shove a beer can up a chicken&#039;s butt and cook it upright. You get a super moist and flavorful chicken that way. But while you get some flavor from the beer, you&#039;re not getting much moisture. The moist chicken comes primarily from the upright cooking method - the beer can might as well be empty.

Now back to the issue: to stuff or not to stuff? Well, I think the best answer is that there are pros and cons to each way. Stuffing that comes from the turkey tastes better, that&#039;s for sure. But adding mass to the turkey *will* increase the time it takes the turkey to get to safe temp. That&#039;s just physics. 

The issue is as much food safety as anything else. Since the stuffing is absorbing the raw turkey juices, you need to make sure it reaches 165 degrees. A compromise would be to stuff the turkey, then scoop the stuffing out after a few hours and finish it in a separate dish. Just do it quick - you don&#039;t want the turkey temp. to drop too far while you scoop!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment, although next time you might want to put some effort into sounding less cocky and preachy. As it happens, I&#039;m a culinary school graduate and I worked as a chef, so let&#039;s just keep our conversation on point.</p>
<p>As long as we&#039;re talking about myths, a big one is the idea that putting a moist thing in the turkey cavity would add moisture to the meat. Case in point: beer can chicken. That&#039;s where you shove a beer can up a chicken&#039;s butt and cook it upright. You get a super moist and flavorful chicken that way. But while you get some flavor from the beer, you&#039;re not getting much moisture. The moist chicken comes primarily from the upright cooking method &#8211; the beer can might as well be empty.</p>
<p>Now back to the issue: to stuff or not to stuff? Well, I think the best answer is that there are pros and cons to each way. Stuffing that comes from the turkey tastes better, that&#039;s for sure. But adding mass to the turkey *will* increase the time it takes the turkey to get to safe temp. That&#039;s just physics. </p>
<p>The issue is as much food safety as anything else. Since the stuffing is absorbing the raw turkey juices, you need to make sure it reaches 165 degrees. A compromise would be to stuff the turkey, then scoop the stuffing out after a few hours and finish it in a separate dish. Just do it quick &#8211; you don&#039;t want the turkey temp. to drop too far while you scoop!</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of your ideas are correct except for the &quot;DO NOT STUFF YOUR TURKEY&quot; part. Stuffing a turkey in no way dries the meat out whether in increased cooking time or absorption of the fluid from the meat into the stuffing. Quite the opposite stuffing a turkey increases fluid content in the meat as the drippings inside the turkey are absorbed by the stuffing which are then slowly released back into the meat from the inside out. If you take a sponge soak it in water and put a piece of glass above it and set it in the sun you will notice water droplets forming on the glass. The same thing happens inside the turkey. Further more as the meet dries it absorbs these droplets of moisture. The long held myth that stuffing a turkey dries the meat because of increased oven time is in fact false and is one of those half baked ideas created by people who have no professional backgroung in culinary arts or people who work for the stovetop stuffing companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of your ideas are correct except for the &#034;DO NOT STUFF YOUR TURKEY&#034; part. Stuffing a turkey in no way dries the meat out whether in increased cooking time or absorption of the fluid from the meat into the stuffing. Quite the opposite stuffing a turkey increases fluid content in the meat as the drippings inside the turkey are absorbed by the stuffing which are then slowly released back into the meat from the inside out. If you take a sponge soak it in water and put a piece of glass above it and set it in the sun you will notice water droplets forming on the glass. The same thing happens inside the turkey. Further more as the meet dries it absorbs these droplets of moisture. The long held myth that stuffing a turkey dries the meat because of increased oven time is in fact false and is one of those half baked ideas created by people who have no professional backgroung in culinary arts or people who work for the stovetop stuffing companies.</p>
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